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BAKKIES
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document.write("I must say it was a very impressive clearout all the same! Bakkies is a legend! We need him fresh for 3n!. brandewyn");
document.write("Fire the JO's
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document.write("Everybody involved in this, from the citing officer, to the appeal judge, should be fired. They have f#cked up big time.. Mac");
document.write("Paddy O'Brien
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document.write("I want Paddy's job - sounds like he does less than me - truely remarkable! He is proving to be as great a success in his current role as he was as a test ref. Who will replace him when he moves on to his next challenge? Steve Walsh? Matt Goddard? Billy Smart? Ngconde Balfour?. Nico");
document.write("the kiwi and the canadian
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document.write("The original citing was done by a Kiwi (Hinds or some-one) and Botha was found guilty by a Canadian.
I find it pathetic that these officials have the sole say in matters as these. This is why there is so little consistency in these citings. While I feel that there is a place for citings, this particular citing is a good example of how detrimental a citing can be for the sport if not done correctly.
Just as PDV was rightly hauled over the coals for his comments, so should these two gentlemen who also have been found to be out of their depth.
Was there appointment also a \" job for pals\" scenario? Not that PDV's appointment was, but he is clearly not the \" best man for the job.\"
PAUL TREU FOR BOK COACH!!!
. thor");
document.write("@Thor
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document.write("I was just wondering.....who do you think should be next bok coach?. Mac");
document.write("Put our differences to bed now?
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document.write("Just a thought, but do you think that now the Lions and SA have come out on the same side, we can stop this squabbling and constant inference that the Lions are a bunch of sore losers?
We clearly don't grab every chance to explain our loss as the fault of the referees/SA reckless play as so many have suggested so maybe we can find some mutual respect and crack on with the third test?
I agree with everything said here and hope this gets sorted out for Bakkies and for rugby as a sport.
Maybe wishful thinking.... James");
document.write("Next Bok Coach
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document.write("Thor, I totally agree - Paul Treu for Bok coach!. Sharky");
document.write("@ James
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document.write("James - don't take the opinions of some of the retards commenting on this site as the over riding Bok fan opinion.
Real rugby fans in SA always knew the series was going to be tight and have full respect for the Lions squad.
Both 1997 and 2009 have been decided with 1 kick.. Edward");
document.write("Bakkies
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document.write("lets hope something is really done to rectify the inconsistencies.
QAs said before the Citing officers and Judical hearing officers must be accountable for their wrong decisions.. VivaLeBok");
document.write("Another H-K
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document.write("Please, let the next rugby coach be a better coach than the quota coach they installed last year, by the name PdV! Paul Treu is the national coach for a 7's squad!!!!!!! please, where has he EVER DONE WELL BY COACHING A 15 MAN SQUAD?? FOR FCUK SAKE!!. Freak");
document.write("Bakkies the legend
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document.write("Gees chaps this is causing the biggest stir EVER. So happy we have a positive story after Schalk's little incident our Country has been taken to pieces by then English press.
Just wondering why has Schalk not said a word about all this or given an apology yet? . Ed in London");
document.write("Schalk's Apology
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document.write("Schalk yesterday (2 July 2009)apologised according to Beeld newspaper. . Christo");
document.write("Clean out like a bakkie
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document.write("Check this out on You Tube best clean out ever by Bakkies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0_L9EjdCk. Mike");
document.write("Bakkies the Legend
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document.write("I love to watch Bakkies play rugby. You almost always see him with a smile on his face. It's clear that he really enjoys his rugby. He is the team enforcer and he does play a very physical game but that is exactly what he is requierd to do. Having said that I don't believe for a second that he would deliberately want to cause another player any serious harm apart from a few bumps and bruises. ------
Congratulations to the Boks for winning the series and thanks to the Lions for giving it their all. I firmly believe that the Boks are the better team but the Lions stood up to be counted after the initial 60 minute rampage by the Boks. -------------
I am very happy for Morne Steyn who I rate very highly. I think Pienaar is an exceptional player as well but perhaps we expected to much of him after such a long lay-off. Congrats to Wynand Olivier as well. We are building a great squad where the player coming on is just as good as the player coming off and that's a great feeling.--------------
I don't think PdV is the best man for the job but having said that he has been chosen and should enjoy our full support. Lets call him on his mistakes, congratulate him on his successes and stop making evrything a racial issue. From PdV point of view he should realize that dealing with the media is part of the job and he has an obligation to the rugby loving public to represent them in a professional manner and not constantly put his foot in it. --------------
Sorry that this post is longer than the Bible ;-). Jaco");
document.write("Ed in Londen
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document.write("Van wonder gaan die son onder... lees die artikel op rugby365.com \" i'm no rugby thug\". koukie");
document.write("Paying lip srvice
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document.write("A pity the Lions management did make public their views on this straight after Bakkies was cited. Or how about that 48hr period between the Boks lodging their appeal and the final decision?? Me thinks Gatland and co are talking ka-aaak!. clyde");
document.write("@ Ed in London
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document.write("Your post is likely proof positive of just how biased and corrupt the british media has been on this tour. There was an official press conference (also reported on this site) where Schalk apologized. But how would you know with a bunch numb-scull, pen-sucking, one-eyed jerks like the british media...
. Nat Leer Bal");
document.write("@freak
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document.write("Freak, your swearing and short response is an indication of a juvenile who has the IQ of a burnt pork chop and cannot think long enough to make an informed response.
If you gave the matter at hand some thought you would deduce that Gold, Montgomery and Muir do the technical coaching and PDV is the \"face\" of the management. Unfortunetly he cannot do that either. He admitted he \"######ed up\" and was caught out by the British media.
Paul Treu on the other hand has played 15 man rugby, is a disciplinarian of note, sets extremely high standards, takes no bull and speaks no bull and thinks logically. The sevens team he put together was excellent. With Treu at the helm he will select the form players, say the correct things to the media and every-one will know exactly where they stand. He will also surround himself with the top assistant coaches and will leave no stone unturned to ensure the Bok team reaches their fullest potential.
He has really impressed me with his management skills and his oratory skills. Give him his due - he is the real deal.
Thanks Sharky for your support!!
. thor");
document.write("Message to Jan De Koning
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document.write("Saying that \"the IRB is being dragged into the affair\" is creating unnecessary melodrama. The principle is being referred to the IRB as the governing body of rugby. Normal procedure.
Jan, take this stuff out of your journalism - you're more than that. . slg");
document.write("Comments
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document.write("You make a good point about not thinking some of the inane comments represent all bok fans - equally don't believe that some of the other drivel represents the true brit rugby fan - remember this is the football off season and you have the football thugs looking for something to do and not understanding the ethos of the game played in heaven. grant");
document.write("Respect to the Lions management!
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document.write("What impressed me most about this article is that the Lions coach stands up for what is right...although that means standing up for Bakkies in this case. You won't see that often! Gatland just won my respect!
(never mind the somewhat unfortunate name when pronouncing it in afrikaans). Christo");
document.write("Gatland's comments on Botha
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document.write("Well done. I thought it was a normal cleanout and glad Gatland said what he did. Gatland being a New Zealander knows they have always been masters at cleaning our rucks, so he understands...but kudos to him for saying this.. Terry");
document.write("@Ed, James, Koukie, Nat Leer Bal
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document.write("I agree with James, time to forget the squabbles. Neither side has behaved perfectly. James, some Lions team members - noteably Phillips and BOD, Geech, and especially your media and posters onm this and other sites, have been whingers and complained or inferred that SA won by playing foul. Not enough SA supporters have condemned Burger's actions - he has apologised, but noteably only to his fans and team mates, not to Fitzgerald and the Lions team. That is shocking. Full marks to the Lions for their support for Bakkies. As I have mentioned elsewhere, Brit fans I meet are among the best sports in the world, and have always made this saffer welcome. Th eimpression created by youir journalists, and a couple of bad eggs in your team, have created a distinctly skewed impression. Lets all remember we share a passion, and enjoy today.. Fonz");
document.write("@Ed in London
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document.write("Schalk had stayed true to his version that he did not intend to eye gouge and that his hands were there coincidentally.
so maybe Schalk will apologise when BOD apologises or even admits to rtying to eye gouge Botha in the first test? Have you seen that photo yet? Check it out on:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jun/21/brian-odriscoll-lions-south-africa-first-test
And to think he was the one being most crtical of the Boks. A$$hole.
. mike");
document.write("bakkies
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document.write("unlucky for him, i wonder if any of those officals that banned him can handle a good hard hand shake, bunch of queens. this is a contact sport and hard knocks and tackles are part of the game. why was sheridans attempted punch at bekkers balls not sited.... that was dirty play... . shabba");
document.write("Gatland you beauty!
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document.write("I wrote on an Aussie website about this matter and here (as a South African) I would like to do the same:
Our dear magnanimous Mr. Gatland - all through the week while the Bakkies Botha suspension and the subsequent appeal thereof was being deliberated, him and his fellow BIL \"management\" buddies kept as quiet as secluded, meditating Monks in a high retreat. ONLY NOW, when the appeal has been turned down and there is no way that Bakkies can play in todays match, does Mr. \"fair play\" Gatland officially state that, not only him but the BIL management too, are against the suspension of Botha, that it was wrong, etc. Oh thanks very much!! Wonderful timing! Who knows what the outcome of the appeal could've been had the a...ls in that joke committee, while deliberating the ban, been aware of the thoughts/feelings of the Lions in this regard?! They obviously didn't WANT Botha to play (a hard, sometimes dirty, yet damn good lock!) and now they quickly say these \"noble\" words to make themselves look like \"sporting fine chaps\"! Ever since the 1st test I have heard nothing but whinging and crying from players and management in the BIL. Amazing. The cherry on top?...the outcome of todays 3rd test - Boks 52 Lions 12.. ZV");
document.write("A Kiwi and a Canadian walked into a bar...
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document.write("...they said oh, it must be Bakkies' fault!. brendon");
document.write("Lions well done!
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document.write("My sincere apologies to the Lions supporters and players that came to South Africa and thought that this will be an easy tour! Facing the World Champions was never going to be easy, but you stood your ground and gave us some extraordinary rugby too look at. Our pubs were full and I hope that South African hospitality were good to you as expected.
It was fun to see Brian O' Driscoll in action after the speartackle in New Zealand 2005, I really thought that turned the series around and the outcome would have been better than 3-0.
To all my fellow Bok supporters who uses whitty comments and backchat and foul language on this website, I would like to say to you that it is a shame to hear you talk about opponents in this way! Schalk Burger did what he did, no shame in hiding it and he is bloody guilty.... and Bakkies did deserve to be banned, he playes hard rugby but is always ready for a fight when it is uncalled for! Being a professional rugby player, you should know better than that!
Give it up Boys the Lions were good on this tour and the outcome could have been 0-2 for the Lions if things were different.
Pieter De Villiers, the only thing I have to say to you, is that you have it lucky sofar.... Jake White build a brilliant team and the players he build is still there...it's time to step up and take responsibility for your team. Adriaan Jacobs is not playing well and clearly Jacque Fourie is our number one, same goes to that Stormer Jean de Villiers, he plays #### rugby at the moment...
Go the Boks. Lions Forever!!!");
document.write("Canadian Justice
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document.write("From extensive personal experience, expecting justice from a Canadian is like expecting Christian evangelism from Osama bin Laden. You just don't hold your breath. Rather just don't put yourself in a position where you need to rely on their decisions.
What the .... What's a Canadian doing judging SA players anyway? Does SA have any judges in Ice Hockey, say? If we do, fair enough. If not, ban Canadians from making IRB decisions.. bombi");
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